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Hello again,

long time no read! But the people of Clydesgow are seeing big changes: route numbers on the high-speed line have changed.

Even numbers are now used for trains turning left and odd numbers for trains turning right.

ICE1x remains reserved for the bundle of routes that branches out from 3rd Jcn

ICE2 is running every 15min between Clydesgow and 2nd Jcn for future extension to a big city at the mouth of the River Clyde

ICE3x is newly reserved for the routes that are going turn right at 2nd Jcn, which are all routes to Montspoor

ICE4 is running every 30min between Clydesgow and Oban for extension to the Capital of Whales

ICE6 is running every 30min between Clydesgow and Oban for extension to Jirkov

ICE4+ICE6 form an 15min interval from Clydesgow to Oban. Then there is an hourly Thalys to Oban (ready for extension to the Capital of Whales) and an hourly Thalys and two hourly TGVs to 2nd Jcn. Timetables for these still need some fine-tuning.

After some delays and sneak previews, Version 40 has finally been uploaded. Clydeshire Airport station is slowly becoming a white sea, with all those ICE trains pausing there.

Also included is a new log file bahn_73.log. which is free from “Trailing turnout passed in facing direction” messages from Montspoor, so that we can now see these messages from other regions and the “Signal counter overflow” and “Signal counter was already 0” messages.

Hello,

Nice to see a new version!

Sascha Claus hat geschrieben: ↑Dienstag 15. Oktober 2024, 02:11 Hi,
1993matias hat geschrieben: ↑Montag 14. Oktober 2024, 10:28I would like to prefer to keep the BD since it has a built-in wheelchair lift.
Alternatively, half the consists could be with your vehicles, and half the consists could be with my vehicles.
I would like to keep the DB since it doesn’t need a wheelchair lift for it’s low floor. But I’m going to repaint a BD into my colours, so that there is more 2nd class and less baggage area. If we have alternating consists and alternating endpoints (Cw and Cc), then one station sees only my trains and the other station sees only your trains.

That's a deal, I'll make sure to add the missing IC trains as soon as the necessary wagons have been painted

Sascha Claus hat geschrieben: ↑Dienstag 15. Oktober 2024, 02:11
1993matias hat geschrieben: ↑Montag 14. Oktober 2024, 10:28 This line in addition to IC6 which runs Redbanks - Rhennir every two hours, and continues to Pembroke every four hours. Rhennir - Pembroke is not electrified.
I feel the urge to steal the Rhennir trains and lead them into Warstones. And run trains connecting with the Pembroke trains.

Please, steal them

They end in Rhennir 10, 14, 18, and 22:47, and start from there 9, 13, 17, and 21:30

Sascha Claus hat geschrieben: ↑Dienstag 15. Oktober 2024, 02:11
1993matias hat geschrieben: ↑Montag 14. Oktober 2024, 10:28For the ICE extension eastwards, maybe there could be one over the mountains along the IC4 route? Either replacing an IC4 or in addition to them. IC4 is 2h07m in doing the trip. The line is fully electrified.
Good idea! But I won’t have an electric ICE-TD available to cross the diesel gap after north of Cairndow, so it would be either diesel or with an electric supply locomotive added.
Maybe go down to a train every two hours:
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05:00 / 07:00 / 09:00 / 11:00 / 13:00 / 15:00 Clydesgow
07:00 / 09:00 / 11:00 / 13.00 / 15:00 / 17:00 Cairndow
        10:30 /                         18:30 Rhennir
        11:40 /                         19:40 Pembroke
09:40 /       /       /       / 17:40 Selden -> Bordele
      /       / 12:40 Coates via mountains
      /       /       / 14:30 Rhennir
Southbound, the later Pembroke train would leave ~13:00 and the later Bordele train would leave Bordele ~15:00. Only problem now is that the Rhennir train has to spend the night there, unless you can do something useful with it during the afternoon and before noon.

See my updated timetable suggestions. I am not sure if the timings in Cairndow are realistic, considering local traffic around the station. A tilde ~ in the time means an estimated time

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ICE 30  ICE 32  ICE 34  ICE 36  ICE 38  ICE 40

05:00 / 07:00 / 09:00 / 11:00 / 13:00 / 15:00 Clydesgow
06:48 / 08:48 / 10:48 / 12:48 / 14:48 / 16:48 Cairndow
07:16 / 09:16 / 11:16 / 13:16 / 15:16 / 17:16 Redbanks
      / 10:27 /         14:27         / 18~30 Rhennir
      / 11:29 /                       / 19~30 Pembroke
08:50 /       /               / 16:50         Selden
      /       / 13~15                         Coates via mountains
12:38 /                       / 20:38         Bordele

And for the return trips:

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      / 05:49                 /         13:49 Bordele
      /       /                 14~35         Coates via mountains
      / 10:05 /               /         18:05 Selden
06~35 /       /         12~35         /       Pembroke
07~50 /       / 11~50   13~50         /       Rhennir
08:46 / 10:39 / 12:39 / 14:39 / 16:39 / 18:39 Redbanks
09:22 / 11:15 / 13:15 / 15:15 / 17:15 / 19:15 Cairndow
11:15 / 13:15 / 15:15 / 17:15 / 19:15 / 21:15 Clydesgow

ICE 31  ICE 33  ICE 35  ICE 37  ICE 39  ICE 41

The train numbers are mostly for my own use inside Montspoor.
Maybe ICE 35/36 could continue to/from Warstones instead of overnighting in Rhennir? Although it's quite a detour for through passengers to go all that way... Even more crazy could be Rhennir - Warstones - Pembroke

Hiho,

1993matias hat geschrieben: ↑Sonntag 20. Oktober 2024, 22:09About the nameless half from you IR1: There is space for a train leaving Willey to cross the river every hour at :28 towards you. Arriving from you would be best at :05. Every hour until Flornes, continuing to Bordele a few times per day.

so an hourly IR23 to northeast – Willey – Flornes and an hourly IR24 to east, details to be specified later. Is the line electrified?

Montspoor Rilways Schedule Department are very "busy" eating cake and napping, so no timetable suggestions for the ICE yet.

Mail trains are very welcome - as soon as Montspoor Mail Management (MMM) has built mail facilities.

It will probably end as one coupled pair of TGV La Poste Airport – Clydesgow Seagate – high-speed-line – split en route and an PIC Clydesgow sorting centre – Clydesgow Seagate – Coates, with an exchange of roll containers like these in Clydesgow Seagate. The PIC will be operated with something like the British 325 or the German Parcel InterCity.

Times would obviously be at night, maybe with some some trains during the day (like Mercitalia Fast or UPS Rail Express).

1993matias hat geschrieben: ↑Dienstag 22. Oktober 2024, 12:24See my updated timetable suggestions. I am not sure if the timings in Cairndow are realistic, considering local traffic around the station. A tilde ~ in the time means an estimated time

Seems like ICE36 will travel shortly after the 14:27 arrival in Rhennir? Then that IC could be cut to Redbanks and leave this run to ICE36, which would continue the Warstones and come back to Redbanks, where the IC would take over again for the way back to Coates.

Although it's quite a detour for through passengers to go all that way... Even more crazy could be Rhennir - Warstones - Pembroke

Surely some Interrailers and other trainspotters would prefer to go the long way round.

Quick reply to ask for a clarification:

Seems like ICE36 will travel shortly after the 14:27 arrival in Rhennir? Then that IC could be cut to Redbanks and leave this run to ICE36

Which ICE36?

1993matias hat geschrieben: ↑Dienstag 22. Oktober 2024, 23:30
Seems like ICE36 will travel shortly after the 14:27 arrival in Rhennir? Then that IC could be cut to Redbanks and leave this run to ICE36
Which ICE36?

The train ICE 36 ~11:00 Clydesgow -> ~12:48 Cairndow -> 13:16 Redbanks -> 14:27 Rhennir, where it would come somewhat close to the 14:47 arrival.

Yes, but you mentioned ICE36 twice which confused me. Which IC could be cut? What do you mean the ICE36 will travel shortly after the arrival?

Sorry, just want to avoid mistakes when making my timetables

1993matias hat geschrieben: ↑Mittwoch 23. Oktober 2024, 12:53Yes, but you mentioned ICE36 twice which confused me.

Maybe I had a knot in my head and was confused myself. Best to just drop my suggestion and focus on the express parcel distribution centre (formerly known as mail sorting centre).

Quick update on the ICE schedules:

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ICE 30  ICE 32  ICE 34  ICE 36  ICE 38  ICE 40

05:00 / 07:00 / 09:00 / 11:00 / 13:00 / 15:00 Clydesgow
06:48 / 08:48 / 10:48 / 12:48 / 14:48 / 16:48 Cairndow
07:16 / 09:16 / 11:16 / 13:16 / 15:16 / 17:16 Redbanks
      / 10:27 /         14:03         / 18:02 Rhennir
      / 11:29 /                       / 19:09 Pembroke
08:50 /       /               / 16:50         Selden
      /       / 13:19                         Coates via mountains
12:38 /                       / 20:38         Bordele

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      / 05:49                 /         13:49 Bordele
      /       /                 14:36         Coates via mountains
      / 10:05 /               /         18:05 Selden
06:45 /       /         12:53         /       Pembroke
07:56 /       / 11:58   14:00         /       Rhennir
08:46 / 10:39 / 12:46 / 14:46 / 16:46 / 18:39 Redbanks
09:22 / 11:15 / 13:22 / 15:22 / 17:22 / 19:15 Cairndow
11:15 / 13:15 / 15:15 / 17:15 / 19:15 / 21:15 Clydesgow

ICE 31  ICE 33  ICE 35  ICE 37  ICE 39  ICE 41

The times are basically final from my end, unfortunately there is some quite tight stops in Redbanks. Hopefully three minutes is enough to change direction on an ICE-TD...! I hope the :22 arrivals in Cairndow don't throw your schedule completely off track. Otherwise I will have to rework the schedules with earlier departures and longer dwell times in Redbanks instead.
Montspoor will paint a Montspoor themed ICE-TD soon

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Parcel trains: I imagine major distribution centres in Redbanks, Coates, Flornes, and Bordele. From there trains depart for minor distribution centres locally. How often would you send national mail service parcel trains? And how often the private express courier services?

Container trains are are also welcome, there is a container terminal almost ready south of Coates. Maybe more terminals will appear over time throughout the country, but let's focus on Coates first since the infrastructure is almost ready. The easiest would be for you to let me know the desired schedule at the border station (Farris), then I will make sure there are trains available at those times.

’n Ahmdchen,

1993matias hat geschrieben: ↑Freitag 25. Oktober 2024, 01:48Hopefully three minutes is enough to change direction on an ICE-TD...!

Tight; unless we use it to switch drivers, for reasons of route knowledge, laws or whatever, then it is plenty.

Montspoor will paint a Montspoor themed ICE-TD soon

Will we see advertising liveries as well, promulgating the joys of a seaside holiday or a mountain retreat?

Parcel trains: I imagine major distribution centres in Redbanks, Coates, Flornes, and Bordele. From there trains depart for minor distribution centres locally.

Flornes and Bordele could be served by a train from Torkham. Redbanks could be served from Torkham either via Coates or via Cairndow; now it depends on how many non-capital centres are directly connected to each other, and how much goes via the capitals. Which ties in with the next question …

How often would you send national mail service parcel trains? And how often the private express courier services?

How much mail and parcels can be expected between cities of this size?

We might have to roll a dice.

Container trains are are also welcome, there is a container terminal almost ready south of Coates. […] The easiest would be for you to let me know the desired schedule at the border station (Farris), then I will make sure there are trains available at those times.

There is currently one container terminal between Cumnock and New Cumnock, ready to serve hourly trains to northwest (Castle Douglas and Whales), northeast (Dumfries and Taynuilt), east (Clydesgow), southeast, southwest and west (Otčina). And another hourly container train Otčina – Clydesgow passing through.

I’m planning the same at the other major border crossings, of which Torkham and Cairndow would be important to you: Clydesgow hourly to Coates; Torkham hourly to Grangemouth, Quainton, Arrochar and Tarbet, due east, Coates, Cairndow, due west, Oban and Cumnock each. Cairndow hourly to Redbanks, Coates and all other directions.

Maybe an additional route pair Inverfyne to Redbanks and Inverfyne to Coates, each hourly? Or all container routes across this border only every two hours? Additional hinterland connections from my ports to directly to the smaller terminals in Montspoor?

G’d ev’ning,
not much new work in the teamwork this week

, but …

1993matias hat geschrieben: ↑Freitag 25. Oktober 2024, 01:48How often would you send national mail service parcel trains? And how often the private express courier services?

… I’ve done an extensive literature review (i. e. I googled for less than an hour

). My local airport mentions 350 lorry movements a day. If we assume that means 350 articulated lorries to and fo from the public roads, then the air cargo hub at Clydeshire Airport will dispense at least 8 750m-long freight trains into the world. If the trains are shorter, because they ought to be fast, then at least 13. That should be enough for at least two fast freight trains per day from my airport to anywhere else.

Regarding the less airy packets, the noise emission study (official documents tend to be great for this) for a Hermes-HUB (Hauptumschlagbasis – seems they like puns) in Löhne mentions 730 lorry movements, 500 during the day 200 in the night. That’s 17 trains of 750m length or 26 trains of 500m length for a capital hub. (This youtube video shows a sample with places for 80 containers = 40 articulated lorries between the Rhine-Ruhr-Area and Berlin, of which 65 are used.)

Now we have to spread this out into all available directions. Since Coates is missing the north, you might get away with half that amount.

Then this has to be split between neighbouring capital centres and smaller ‘satellites’. Let’s make it 24 trains per day (easy to calculate), split 50:50, then that’s 12 trains to other ‘capital centres’.

From Clydesgow, that could be a 2×½ train to Coates and Cairndow each, 2x1 train to each of five other directions (including Whales).

Add the same amount from Torkham and Cairndow to Coates, that’s 4 trains per day (about 16 to 24 elements in length) via Farris and … 2 trains per day via Strone (from Cairndow) and Willey (from Torkham) each? Or 4 shorter trains per day via the diesel line?

By scaling this up according to market share, we need the same amount of trains for UPS and DPD each, for FedEx and TNT combined and all that again for DHL. That would be 16 trains per day between Clydesgow and Coates alone,

but if we had brown, white, purple-orange, orange and yellow trains, that colourful look would befit a BAHN layout.

How many different companies do you want to operate in Montspoor? And which colours? And that are only the packet trains, not including the mail …

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